Discussion:
Brisbane's 96.5 Family FM New Line-Up
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Glen
2004-06-01 06:12:35 UTC
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Could
this mean they have lost Drive Announcer and M.D(???)Nat Dixon?
By the way the MD is Malcom Pollard
Ahh, must have got him and their PD mixed up, as I thought he was at
some stage? If not, then who is their PD? I'm not as well informed as
alot of you are! :)

BTW: Heard Nat Dixon back on-air this afternoon. Must have been on
sick leave.
Tejas57Fan
2004-06-01 06:35:52 UTC
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Post by Glen
By the way the MD is Malcom Pollard
Ahh, must have got him and their PD mixed up, as I thought he was at
some stage? If not, then who is their PD? I'm not as well informed as
alot of you are! :)
BTW: Heard Nat Dixon back on-air this afternoon. Must have been on
sick leave.
i believe that malcom has both roles but i'll double check with helen
tonight
Tejas57Fan
2004-06-01 22:58:08 UTC
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Post by Tejas57Fan
Post by Glen
By the way the MD is Malcom Pollard
Ahh, must have got him and their PD mixed up, as I thought he was at
some stage? If not, then who is their PD? I'm not as well informed as
alot of you are! :)
BTW: Heard Nat Dixon back on-air this afternoon. Must have been on
sick leave.
i believe that malcom has both roles but i'll double check with helen
tonight
ok i stand corrected

MD: Jason Berry
PD: Malcolm Pollard
The Listener
2004-06-02 02:49:32 UTC
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All this chit chat about a station which should NEVER, EVER been given
a licence. It's way too professional and more importantly too
commercial for commmunity radio.

Besides, it was given the licence because Family FM has 'mates' in
government that were able to lean (not too hard I might add) on the
highly smypathetic ABA and good ol Professor Flint who being such a
fun loving stick in the mud, middle of the road, queen loving and god
fearing person that he is would've loved to have signed off on it.

Wild FM Brisbane knew about all of this and decided to work smart, not
harder and so all their top quality members are now in commercial
radio.

Wild didn't put in an application, but Switch (i1197) and Pulse did
and were told not to include all their raw letters of support - but
those law-abiding "Christians" at Family did so I'm told. Don't they
know God doesn't like lawbreakers? Oh, they conveniently forgot…

Family FM and their licence stinks to high heaven and it's the
hypocritcal devils in their own cartel and the ABA (not to forget
Federal MP's and other levels that lent their support) that got it all
happening.

All their fun days and TV simulcasts and other cosy deals, they
should've lined up for a commercial licence like all the rest.

The Listener
Post by Tejas57Fan
Post by Tejas57Fan
Post by Glen
By the way the MD is Malcom Pollard
Ahh, must have got him and their PD mixed up, as I thought he was at
some stage? If not, then who is their PD? I'm not as well informed as
alot of you are! :)
BTW: Heard Nat Dixon back on-air this afternoon. Must have been on
sick leave.
i believe that malcom has both roles but i'll double check with helen
tonight
ok i stand corrected
MD: Jason Berry
PD: Malcolm Pollard
mucky
2004-06-02 03:20:06 UTC
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Post by The Listener
All this chit chat about a station which should NEVER, EVER been given
a licence. It's way too professional and more importantly too
commercial for commmunity radio.
Besides, it was given the licence because Family FM has 'mates' in
government
so .. nothing to do with their overall big boss
upstairs eh? I mean, talk about friends in high
places..
Glen
2004-06-02 06:25:08 UTC
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I must admit much of what "The Listener" says sounds quite true. I
would consider them more of a Commercial Broadcaster than Community.
Their musical format has gone more Mainstream over the last few years.
And the only real "Christian Perspective" is for 6 hours on Sunday.
The rest of the time is mainly the Gospel messages but just with a few
nice words in between.

I wonder if the i1197 situation would be different to what it is now,
if they were given the 96.5 FM licence instead of Family FM?
Nick
2004-06-02 08:25:00 UTC
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Glen,

You should know better than to say that... A rock painted in gold paint does
not become gold...

Nick
Post by Glen
I must admit much of what "The Listener" says sounds quite true. I
would consider them more of a Commercial Broadcaster than Community.
Their musical format has gone more Mainstream over the last few years.
And the only real "Christian Perspective" is for 6 hours on Sunday.
The rest of the time is mainly the Gospel messages but just with a few
nice words in between.
I wonder if the i1197 situation would be different to what it is now,
if they were given the 96.5 FM licence instead of Family FM?
radio_avon
2004-06-02 08:39:14 UTC
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I agree totally. Severely doubt family should have even got the
frequency in the first place. Haydn Sargent did some lobbying... and
now what?

Just another giddy-gum namby-pamby bland station on the FM
landscape...

Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
Post by The Listener
All this chit chat about a station which should NEVER, EVER been given
a licence. It's way too professional and more importantly too
commercial for commmunity radio.
Besides, it was given the licence because Family FM has 'mates' in
government that were able to lean (not too hard I might add) on the
highly smypathetic ABA and good ol Professor Flint who being such a
fun loving stick in the mud, middle of the road, queen loving and god
fearing person that he is would've loved to have signed off on it.
Wild FM Brisbane knew about all of this and decided to work smart, not
harder and so all their top quality members are now in commercial
radio.
Wild didn't put in an application, but Switch (i1197) and Pulse did
and were told not to include all their raw letters of support - but
those law-abiding "Christians" at Family did so I'm told. Don't they
know God doesn't like lawbreakers? Oh, they conveniently forgot?
Family FM and their licence stinks to high heaven and it's the
hypocritcal devils in their own cartel and the ABA (not to forget
Federal MP's and other levels that lent their support) that got it all
happening.
All their fun days and TV simulcasts and other cosy deals, they
should've lined up for a commercial licence like all the rest.
The Listener
Post by Tejas57Fan
Post by Tejas57Fan
Post by Glen
By the way the MD is Malcom Pollard
Ahh, must have got him and their PD mixed up, as I thought he was at
some stage? If not, then who is their PD? I'm not as well informed as
alot of you are! :)
BTW: Heard Nat Dixon back on-air this afternoon. Must have been on
sick leave.
i believe that malcom has both roles but i'll double check with helen
tonight
ok i stand corrected
MD: Jason Berry
PD: Malcolm Pollard
Tejas57Fan
2004-06-02 13:38:03 UTC
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Post by radio_avon
I agree totally. Severely doubt family should have even got the
frequency in the first place. Haydn Sargent did some lobbying... and
now what?
Just another giddy-gum namby-pamby bland station on the FM
landscape...
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
alot of christians i know are switching from 96.5 to vision - sure the
reception is sometimes bad but they are cated for better
Glen
2004-06-02 14:23:16 UTC
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Haydn Sargent....wasn't he Chairman at one Stage? I heard he is no
longer with Family? Can someone confirm this? I heard rumours there
was a new chairman appointed since 2002. I'm really behind on Industry
news as you can tell!!!

- Glen
Matt Cook
2004-06-03 11:14:16 UTC
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Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a very
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.

So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of Christians
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.

NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing listeners
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
The Listener
2004-06-04 04:05:06 UTC
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Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.

I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.

As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.

Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.

simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)

The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a very
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of Christians
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing listeners
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
shannon
2004-06-06 10:19:38 UTC
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yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen right
before there second or third test transmission
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a very
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of Christians
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing listeners
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
The Listener
2004-06-06 14:36:14 UTC
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Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen right
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)

The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a
very
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
Peter Tate
2004-06-07 00:05:45 UTC
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HEHEHEHE!!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!

Always thinking Marcus love it!!!
shannon
2004-06-07 07:53:31 UTC
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"""SHANNONS SLAPS LISTENER OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD"""good on ya

all my equipment was dodgy..was set up for under 100$..but you woudnlt know
it with the quality of the signal and distance i had with 50 watts outta 2
cophased dipoles..

shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen right
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)
The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a
very
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
The Listener
2004-06-07 15:31:18 UTC
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Post by shannon
"""SHANNONS SLAPS LISTENER OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD"""good on ya
all my equipment was dodgy..was set up for under 100$..but you woudnlt know
it with the quality of the signal and distance i had with 50 watts outta 2
cophased dipoles..
I know, just having a joke - but despite your dodgy equipment, you
managed to get out a wide reaching signal I recall?

"shannon" pirated the right way (if that's possible) by working with
cheap equipment that lessens the pain when the ACA inevitably catch
up…

unlike someone else who's still smarting…

The Listener
Post by shannon
shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen
right
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)
The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their
needs
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they
embrace a
very
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to
target a
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
Shaun Stapleton
2004-06-20 03:30:37 UTC
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$50 for 50watts? amp on a Dick Smith Kit or something, would of been nice
and clean

I could of brought a 2nd hand car on what I did.

Shaun.
Post by shannon
"""SHANNONS SLAPS LISTENER OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD"""good on ya
all my equipment was dodgy..was set up for under 100$..but you woudnlt know
it with the quality of the signal and distance i had with 50 watts outta 2
cophased dipoles..
shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen
right
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)
The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their
needs
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they
embrace a
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
very
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to
target a
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
David Kilpatrick
2004-06-20 07:05:57 UTC
Permalink
Dear me.

Shaun, the word is bought. Brought is the past tense of bring .. goose! :)
Post by Shaun Stapleton
$50 for 50watts? amp on a Dick Smith Kit or something, would of been nice
and clean
I could of brought a 2nd hand car on what I did.
Shaun.
Post by shannon
"""SHANNONS SLAPS LISTENER OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD"""good on ya
all my equipment was dodgy..was set up for under 100$..but you woudnlt know
it with the quality of the signal and distance i had with 50 watts outta 2
cophased dipoles..
shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen
right
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)
The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their
needs
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they
embrace a
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
very
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to
target a
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
Shaun Stapleton
2004-06-20 07:53:50 UTC
Permalink
Thanks Dave can't even say it was a typing mistake
Post by David Kilpatrick
Dear me.
Shaun, the word is bought. Brought is the past tense of bring .. goose! :)
Post by Shaun Stapleton
$50 for 50watts? amp on a Dick Smith Kit or something, would of been nice
and clean
I could of brought a 2nd hand car on what I did.
Shaun.
Post by shannon
"""SHANNONS SLAPS LISTENER OVER THE BACK OF HIS HEAD"""good on ya
all my equipment was dodgy..was set up for under 100$..but you woudnlt know
it with the quality of the signal and distance i had with 50 watts
outta
2
Post by Shaun Stapleton
Post by shannon
cophased dipoles..
shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter
stolen
right
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
before there second or third test transmission
Is that where you got your pirate TX from? (joking)
The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience
of
Post by Shaun Stapleton
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from
necessary
to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to
more
Post by Shaun Stapleton
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early
90's
Post by Shaun Stapleton
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have
been
Post by Shaun Stapleton
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
Post by shannon
Post by The Listener
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules
to
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cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
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Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their
needs
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more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they
embrace a
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very
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wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will
find
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Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
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at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to
target a
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select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with
enough
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Post by shannon
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Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
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because they're focused on a style of music they like.
Shaun Stapleton
2004-06-20 03:22:30 UTC
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It was on 92.1MHz
Post by shannon
yeah and in the early days off 92.9 theyhad there transmitter stolen right
before there second or third test transmission
Post by The Listener
Interesting justification, but Family FM simply play a
pseudo-Christian music format in order to draw in a wider audience of
B105/973/4KQ listeners who'll tolerate some Bible bashing.
I'm not anti-church or religion at all, but it's far from necessary to
have it wasting spectrum and of a licence which could've gone to more
worthy groups.
As I've said time and time before - Family should've got the AM
licence as it's more suitable to a GENUINE Christian station. But
those Family people have been coy and slippery as an eel from the
start having never test broadcasted on AM but only in the early 90's
on FM 92.9, then FM 96.5 - so simply because they claim to have been
around for 20-30 years - not on air they haven't and that's what
counts - the ability to provide a service.
Family FM are epitomy of working the system and bending the rules to
cut all others out and chase the $$$ - all very un-Christian I say.
simply: Family are bad and never deserved the FM licence (or any)
The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
Post by radio_avon
Surely Christians would prefer a station that catered to their needs
more fully? And not some half-baked commercial sound-alike?
While there are a number of Christians around the place, they embrace a
very
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
wide range of musical styles. Even in the talk field, you will find
Christians with all sorts of views.
So Christian radio can only ever hope to please a small number of
Christians
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
at any one time - like the mainstream stations can only hope to target a
select group of the general population.
NZ and the US are probably the only places in the world with enough
Christians (and licences) to support a diverse range of Christian
broadcasters. These stations often pick up low or non-believing
listeners
Post by The Listener
Post by Matt Cook
because they're focused on a style of music they like.
Andrew Smith
2023-05-17 11:37:26 UTC
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Hoo-boy! Sorry for being two decades late to the party on this one but it needs a response. It's an absolute doozy.

There is no such thing as "too professional". And if you're a community station you aren't compelled to be amateur either. The thing about this station is that we cared enough to do things better, and also to train other volunteers. Over *26 years* (that's how long it took to get the licence) we managed to purchase a bit of the right gear along the way and build some studios (after initially having them in a caravan).

Family Radio / Family FM got the licence because the submission for it was overwhelming compared to all others competing for that same licence. It was night and day, and after 26 years you could only hope that would be the case. No idea if anyone was told to not include letters of support, but it would have to be a weird thing to happen as that is the very time it would count. Family Radio had them from right throughout the political spectrum and elsewhere.

These "fun days" you speak of were a danged lot of hard work, but also part and parcel of what you can do when you are a community station. They also only happen through the power of volunteers.

As someone who was there, and also the person who typeset the licence submission, I can tell you that there were no cozy deals or anything else. Sometimes the organisation itself was done over. Back in the 1990s, due to the history of Family Radio as an aspirant broadcaster, a 'special purpose' FM licence was made available in the Brisbane region as it would suit the organisation. Family Radio was the only contestant at that stage (from memory). Ahead of the tribunal hearings a few university funded aspirant broadcasters magically popped up -- "educational" use of a special purpose licence -- and the aboriginal group was given the licence. It was found out later that the whole thing was a predetermined kangaroo court situation and the episode is covered in a book that is/was in the UQ law library. This is now the Triple-A station (and they likely had no idea of the machinations behind the granting of the licence).

So that licence that Family Radio won? It's a good thing as everyone knew that it was the last FM allocations to be done for Brisbane ... ever. (Totally understandable that some of the non-winners would be unhappy.)

Andrew
noel
2023-05-21 07:27:10 UTC
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... our servers only go back 10 years so missed the article you replied
to, but...


Seems family fm, run and funded by the catholic church, lost their way
only a couple years ago when ACMA issued them a show cause to keep their
licence for not following the rules, multiple times, we all know they
dont issue show causes lightly. So being on a their last warning, there
just may be another FM licence issued in BRI RA1 in the future afterall.

That said, either way, never say " never " times change, AM is all but
gone, one of them just might prove a case for conversion, govts change,
ACMA's directions and instruments change, the minister could get a
compelling request to issue a M/D to ACMA to offer or approve one.

Dont know what Uni broadcasters you refer to, only one I know of was
4ZZZ, who existed a *LONG* time before family fm was thought of, I
remember hangin out with Billy Rhiner when I was a kid when their studio
was in the schonel <sp?> theatre building at UQ, gaaaawwwdd that was a
tad over 45 years ago. 4ZZZ was also the first community FM station lic'd
in Qld, so unsure of what other Uni community stations "after family fm"
you speak of are, unless you are referring to some other state.


Cheers
Post by Andrew Smith
Hoo-boy! Sorry for being two decades late to the party on this one but
it needs a response. It's an absolute doozy.
There is no such thing as "too professional". And if you're a community
station you aren't compelled to be amateur either. The thing about this
station is that we cared enough to do things better, and also to train
other volunteers. Over *26 years* (that's how long it took to get the
licence) we managed to purchase a bit of the right gear along the way
and build some studios (after initially having them in a caravan).
Family Radio / Family FM got the licence because the submission for it
was overwhelming compared to all others competing for that same licence.
It was night and day, and after 26 years you could only hope that would
be the case. No idea if anyone was told to not include letters of
support, but it would have to be a weird thing to happen as that is the
very time it would count. Family Radio had them from right throughout
the political spectrum and elsewhere.
These "fun days" you speak of were a danged lot of hard work, but also
part and parcel of what you can do when you are a community station.
They also only happen through the power of volunteers.
As someone who was there, and also the person who typeset the licence
submission, I can tell you that there were no cozy deals or anything
else. Sometimes the organisation itself was done over. Back in the
1990s, due to the history of Family Radio as an aspirant broadcaster, a
'special purpose' FM licence was made available in the Brisbane region
as it would suit the organisation. Family Radio was the only contestant
at that stage (from memory). Ahead of the tribunal hearings a few
university funded aspirant broadcasters magically popped up --
"educational" use of a special purpose licence -- and the aboriginal
group was given the licence. It was found out later that the whole
thing was a predetermined kangaroo court situation and the episode is
covered in a book that is/was in the UQ law library. This is now the
Triple-A station (and they likely had no idea of the machinations behind
the granting of the licence).
So that licence that Family Radio won? It's a good thing as everyone
knew that it was the last FM allocations to be done for Brisbane ...
ever. (Totally understandable that some of the non-winners would be
unhappy.)
Andrew
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